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Peter Donis's avatar

I thnk you are missing a key point: while it is true that much of the value in human life comes from communities and other social institutions, that value is value *for the individual humans that are part of those institutions*. There is no such thing as "value to the institution" if no human gets value from it. And if every human member of an institution is better off if that institution dies, which you say is the case for your example of the small town after the railroad connects it to the metropolis, then it *should* die. Institutions are human tools, and humans can choose to change the tools they use.

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> It’s small comfort that the murder was performed with the consent of individual townsfolk. Imagine luring each ant into a small individual-ant-sized box with honey, then scattering the boxes. This “maximizes the revealed preferences” of each individual ant, but it kills the ant colony as surely as boric acid.

This isn't an example of the point you claim it is.

These ants are, I claim, best thought of as being tricked. Each individual ant doesn't want to be transported far away from their colony (or wouldn't, want that, it was able of understanding).

This isn't an example of everyone's individual preferences adding up to something that's collectively bad. It's an example of individuals acting myopically on local individual preferences, and getting a result which is both individually bad, and also collectively bad.

I don't think this is just an academic point. I challenge you to come up with an example of a situation that is genuinely an improvement for each individual, but bad for the group, where you think we should prefer the group's welfare to that of the individuals.

Depending on your tastes, you might think that benefits to groups can sometimes outweigh aggregate benefits to the people who make them up, but I don't think that most people will share that intuition.

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